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maxequationswearableart
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 Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: Google Attributes |
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Could somebody please treat me like a three year old and explain the new Google Attribute Screen when listing?
We have always been very happy with how quickly our listings index on Google and have never used Attributes before.
I have read what I can find and have not a clue
Thanks in Advance
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acread
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zickit
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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In a nutshell Google Attributes are used by google to determine if your product fits the search.
| Quote: | The more attributes you include here the greater the chances to receive better placement in Google Products. Please note that eCRATER does not support some Google Base attributes. All supported attrubutes with sample values assigned are shown below:
I. General Attributes
name:value
brand:Acme
isbn:0451524233
mpn:HSC0424PP
upc:834721479305
product_type:plasma tv
II. Product Specific Attributes
name:value
actor:Charlie Chaplin
age_range:2-5
artist:The Beatles
author:John Steinbeck
battery_life:3
binding:hardcover
capacity:128MB
color:red
department:men's
director:Steven Spielberg
display_type:LCD
feature:machine washable
focus_type:manual
format:DVD
functions:photo capability
genre:Rock and Roll
height:26 inches
length:36 inches
made_in:US
material:leather
megapixels:5.2 MP
occasion:engagement
operating_system:Linux
optical_drive:DVD-R
pages:180
platform:Nintendo Wii
processor_speed:1.67 GHz
publisher:Acme Publishing
rating:PG-13
resolution:1024x768
screen_size:14.1 inches
size:medium
style:casual
width:36 inches
year:2005
zoom:4x
color_output:true
edition:collectors
installation:wall-mounted
Make sure you include only RELEVANT to your products attributes. For more information please click on the "Promote My Store" link located at the left navigation menu. |
Select from the list about the Attribute names that are relevant to your product and put in your attribute value. |
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maxequationswearableart
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: I THINK I got it |
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I think I might now understand but thought I would do a "test" post before jumping in.
Is this close and have I missed any?
Brand- MaxEquations
Product Type - Clothing
Color - Black
Size - XSmall
Style - Casual
Material - 100% Oorganic Cotton
Feature - Handpainted
THese are for listing http://maxequationswearableart.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2594439
Also can same Attribute Value be used twice in a listing? Foe example Product Type could also be Women's, Tee Shirt
As always with Thanks
Gary |
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acread
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:32 am Post subject: Re: I THINK I got it |
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| maxequationswearableart wrote: | I think I might now understand but thought I would do a "test" post before jumping in.
Is this close and have I missed any?
Brand- MaxEquations
Product Type - Clothing
Color - Black
Size - XSmall
Style - Casual
Material - 100% Oorganic Cotton
Feature - Handpainted
THese are for listing http://maxequationswearableart.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=2594439
Also can same Attribute Value be used twice in a listing? Foe example Product Type could also be Women's, Tee Shirt
As always with Thanks
Gary |
Attribute name..............Attribute value
brand...........................MaxEquations
artist............................MaxEquations (if these are your designs)
product_type.................Clothing, Apperal, Tshirt, Top
color.............................Black, Blue, Pink (I added the extra colors based on the stuff painted on the tshirt, but you don't have to)
size...............................X Small, XSmall, XS
style.............................Casual
material........................100% Organic Cotton, Cotton, Pure Cotton
feature.........................Handpainted
(make sure to put that low dash instead of space for Attribute Name. Stick strictly to the way the Attribute names are typed. )
Looks like you figured it out fine.  |
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JefferysJunction
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:18 am Post subject: |
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I also have some questions:
- If an attribute has more than one value such as "color: red white & blue"
would it be best to put all three values in one attribute or have three separate attributes?
- Does it matter if an attribute is capitalized or not?
- Will attributes work on our Home Page, About Us page, etc?
- Will Google Attributes also help other search engines find our products? |
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acread
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| JefferysJunction wrote: | | - If an attribute has more than one value such as "color: red white & blue", would it be best to put all three values in one attribute or have three separate attributes? |
If you type the same attribute name more than once (like: [!color:red!] [!color:yellow!]) after you save only the first one stays and get reported as attribute. Put them in like one with a comma and space between as shown above.
| JefferysJunction wrote: | | - Does it matter if an attribute is capitalized or not? |
for the Attribute Name part I tend to stick to stricktly whet eCrater has typed (no capital letters), otherwise even the normally recognized attributes don't get recognized.
for the Attribute Value I don't think it matters much. Try to stick to the way people would type them in searches.
| JefferysJunction wrote: | | - Will attributes work on our Home Page, About Us page, etc? |
Google Base Attributes are for products and strictly for Google Product Search. So if you put them in any other page it won't make a difference in Google Product search.
Adding keyword like: black, tshirt, clothing, handpainted as a string of words will help with all the searches you submitted your url to (like google (search engine), yahoo, msn etc.). If you make sentenses and paragraphs from them they won't look so conspicuous either.
| JefferysJunction wrote: | | - Will Google Attributes also help other search engines find our products? |
No, I don't think so. |
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maxequationswearableart
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Thanks and anothe question |
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Actually I found your posts last night and they really did help me get going so I thank you
I assume that using Attributes is a way of "prethinking" any word a customer might use looking for a specific product to buy
If so what what we put our artwork under? For example we do a large business in Celtic as well as Zodiac Signs to name two that people might be looking for?
Gary |
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acread
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: |
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If you can't find a specific attribute to put Celtic Design, or Zodiac Sign, Libra, Scorpio, etc. Just type them in the Title (name) of the product. That gets fed as "title" attribute (by eCrater. You won't see it in the attribute list.). You have 100 character space, put it to use.
(You did see the comment I made about your question on attributes for your example item, right? It's right above JeffreysJunction's question) |
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maxequationswearableart
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes I did and Thanks
Here is what is weird. We have 96 listings in ecrator right now all with the same exact Titles except for size and actual zodiac sign
If I go to Google SHopping and Search Zodiac Tee Shirt only one of the 96 listings shows which is Aquarius Medium
Lower in the search page it says "refine search for........" and there is a link for ecrator stores. If I click there again only one listing appears but now is Gemini 2xlarge
ANy thoughts
Gary |
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zickit
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | brand...........................MaxEquations |
The brand of the shirt is most linkly not MaxEquations - it's probably Hanes, Fruit of the Loom or some other brand. Unless of course you are making the shirt and not just putting the design on it.
| Quote: | Here is what is weird. We have 96 listings in ecrator right now all with the same exact Titles except for size and actual zodiac sign
If I go to Google SHopping and Search Zodiac Tee Shirt only one of the 96 listings shows which is Aquarius Medium
Lower in the search page it says "refine search for........" and there is a link for ecrator stores. If I click there again only one listing appears but now is Gemini 2xlarge
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Google don't allow duplicate items and weeds them out. No one really knows googles formula to do this so all the website masters try to figure it out.
Other then putting the difference first in the titles or moving them around there isn't much you can do.
I know that you have bought this same topic up before in this forum.
It's simply how google shopping works.
Not every item will every appear - the internet just has way too many items for sale to list everything from every site. |
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maxequationswearableart
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Afternoon-
The brand is Maxequations as yes we do produce all our own garments
I just question why only one of 96 listings shows as I am trying to understand what all this additional work will bring me
If your sign is not Aquarious or you are but not a medium you have no idea that there is a store where all signs are available in all sizes at all times
To go and add attributes to 96 listings I would like to be able to understand does one listing ( which has NO attributes) got to 2, 12, 50
GAry |
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maxequationswearableart
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: So frustrating |
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We are still using our Zodiac Tee Program as a test for Attributes.
Can somebody please tell us after one puts them in under a specific listing is there a time period that the listing will show if searched using those attributes?
Also when we search we are amazed how many non tee shirts appear when you search Zodiac Tee Shirts. Pins, magnets and a slew of our items all appear
We are begining to wonder if any of this is worth our time
Gary |
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acread
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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It takes about 3 days for Google Product search to update their info after you made changes on your store.
I just searched the following at the Google Product search:
Zodiac Tee Program
Zodiac Tee Shirt
Zodiac Tshirt
All I'm seeing are tshirts. Where exactly are you doing your search?
As to if it is worth your time, that really is up to you to decide. |
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